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Post by fredrik on Mar 9, 2008 1:04:52 GMT -5
Team: Predators
Gm: Fredrik Sjölund
Offers
Tomas Vokoun
Ryan Suter
Scott Hartnell
Team: Flyers
Gm: Bläki
Offers
Robert Eshe
RJ Umberger
Mike Knuble
Dennis Seidenberg
Steffan Ruzicka
Panthers 2nd pick 2006
Nashville accepts this, we get some good attacking prospects with RJ Umberger and Steffan Ruzicka and also some veterans (knuble) to help the kids. difference between Esche and Voks is not much once trained and Voks will be free agent next season, so Preds accept
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Post by blacky on Mar 9, 2008 1:06:44 GMT -5
I need a legit goalie now to make the playoffs, as too many of my players are the "project" type, including Esche and Nitti. Pains to give up both Umberger and Ruzicka, but they were essential to fill the gaps in this deal. Flyers accept. Tackar and maybe Foppas next.  |
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Post by counthockula on Mar 9, 2008 14:01:25 GMT -5
Nashville got ripped
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Post by mordak on Mar 9, 2008 14:34:10 GMT -5
I agree
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Post by blacky on Mar 9, 2008 14:47:49 GMT -5
According to my board, I was the one that got ripped. Anyways, this one comes down to Umberger and how he rolled, since he doesn't have fixed PA it differs game to game. His rated at -8, just like a certain Mike Richards, it's a gamble for both sides IMO. |
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Post by blacky on Mar 9, 2008 15:11:31 GMT -5
Just to add, if Fredrik wants a reversal, I'm cool with it. But I'd like to hear what doesn't match up in this trade though, since it was he who wanted to move Vokoun and Hartnell (I iniated though asking about Suter) for Esche or Nitti and package (including Umberger, prospect, pick). Obviously I started negotiating low and we eventually reached what you see here. Should I of paid more when he was happy with the deal?  |
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Post by fredrik on Mar 10, 2008 2:08:19 GMT -5
I am still good with this trade,bläkki. Vokon has expiring contract and he asks for 3 milion++,his difference between eshe is small... Knuble is better than Hartnell now, just olrder and hartnel lwas also expiring. my boardwould nto alow me to spend upto the cap,so I need signed players... I like umberger and I also get a high pick in this deal..
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Post by counthockula on Mar 10, 2008 16:16:46 GMT -5
Vokoun is infinately better then Esche, Suter is a Norris defenseman, and Scott Hartnell is THE best 2nd line RW in the game, he could excel on the first line probably. Not to mention Suter and Hartnell are both extremely young. Knuble is old and worth nothing more than a 3rd round pick, Umberger, (-8), sits at the low end of that scale, (130-160), I imagine as I have NEVER seen him turn into a top 6 forward. Esche is good, but again, not even close to Vokoun IMO. Siedenberg, Ruzicka, and a 2nd Rnd. pick do not compensate for the lopsidedness of this trade. Philly is getting 3 key guys, Nashville is getting crap. Personally I don't think that this trade should have been allowed. I am sorry Blakki, I know you mean well, but you are reminding me of Jeff.  And Fredrik deal away expensive older players, the young guys are the ones to keep. |
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Post by gary montgomery on Mar 11, 2008 6:36:34 GMT -5
This trade is ok.
I can understand peoples worrys over it
but
it is ok.
even in the game it menctions both goalies in the mvp for there team or best acqusition.
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